however, the answer is not to have obama come out and denounce it. he shouldn't have denounced the youtube video that nobody saw. the answer to fighting the goats herding barbarians who are storming our embassy abroad is not to start acting like them. we have freedom of speech. we are not going to sensor people. we shouldn't pay for them, end of story. i don't think the answer is to start becoming art and film critics and start setting up, well, i denounce this, i denounce that. just shut up and don't talk about any of. it it is not your job. >> of course not. what i don't understand is what does bill donohue and the catholic league, what do they want? do they want something where we react to a stupid youtube video by rioting in the streets because there is no freedom of speech? that makes no sense at all. and that is not america. i don't know what the goal is in any of this. >> i actually agree with you. imogen, it is an offensive piece. it is stupid. but on a broader scale, isn't art on some -- at least some art supposed to offend? >> well, it is a